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logicalthinker

Joined: 2010-01-04
Posts: 55
do you think 4d is predictable?

Dear forumers,

I'm a new member and this is my 1st post. I play 4D game too and only bet my car plate number. until I discovered this forum few months ago, read all the posts regarding how people read and break the codes, how people guess and predict the betting number.

4D game is a combination of 4 digits 0-9 number from 0000-9999, so there are total 10000 possible combinations. There are 23 4D number per draw, 3 draws per weeks (excluded Special draw), means 23*3*52 = 3588 combinations per year. So a same number should be reoccured every 3 years.

Do you think 4D is predictable? Some said yes, some said maybe, some said no. Based on few assumptions below, I would say maybe yes.

1. If draw result is not programmatic, why a same number seldom repeated (If draw result is draw randomly, there are high possibility a same number will be repeated)?
2. How often you see the same number strike in more than 1 counter per draw? This can assume MKT result are programmable to avoid this to happen.
3. Have anyone seen before how the result being draw (personally I never)? Claimed from MKT websites, the process of drawing is open to the public.

After I read the posts in this forum, found out that everyone has their own unique ways and methods to guess/predict the bet number. Some read and break the codes, some using +- method, some have their own charts. For those code readers, some counting the dots (binary), some refer to the so called 4 sets of L codes (Hexadecimal), some refer to the so called L16 codes (I don't know what number is this in math, maybe also Hexadecimal), some refer to the so called G codes (7 set of numbers). No matter how, the important thing is strike.

I'm a web programmer, although I'm not expert in machine programming, but I'm still understand the logic and nature of programming. The number structure used in programming called Numeral System, there are a lot of them, Binary (Base 2), Octal (Base 8), Decimal (Base 10), Hexadecimal (Base 16) and so on. Please refer to the picture below (sorry that I have to copy someone's picture).

1. Section RED is the Binary Code (machine readable dots), representing by 1 and 0.
2. Section YELLOW is the Hexadecimal Code (translated from Binary Code in RED), 16 binary dots per Hexa code (4 per character (8421)).
3. Section BLUE is similar to Hexa but not confirm (because there are still a lot of base number in Numeral System).
4. Section GREEN, read it directly from the ticket, they are like 7 sets of 5 digits decimal number. However, I do believe they from base Numeral System too.
5. Section PURPLE should be machine readable codes representing Section BLUE and GREEN.

For me, I believe that Section RED and PURPLE are where machine will detect/scan when you claim the prizes. And I believe the codes/binary/hexa/numbers you saw on the ticket are not directly use as data to be process in the system. For my opinions, they should be transformed into other Numeral System base numbers example Decimal (Base 10) to be used by the system to compare against the winning numbers.

There is only 1 way to predict from the tickets, that is you need to know how the system is coded (hehe, I think only the creator/pragrammer of the machine know about it).

Anyway, the statements above are all my personal opinions base on my experience in IT programming area. No offend to anyone, so for those who have their own ways and methods for predicting and winning, keep it up you hardworks.


(Click the picture to zoom)

Posted on 2010-01-04 20:39:21



Author Comments
pintar

Joined: 2012-03-13
Posts: 80
it prog. (ip) eg12. so high. nice writing. code of 16. but you keep respect to us. i saloute u.

Posted on 2012-09-07 10:26:52

kritikanciliapi

Joined: 2012-08-29
Posts: 33
This system probably works like the thousands of other variants all over the world;

The barcode is simply a REFERENCE NUMBER, when it is scanned, the reference number is sent over the internet/network to a server where your number is checked against the winning one.

The reason that ticket #1 (1234) and #2 (1234) etc have different barcode is because the barcode doesn't have your number (1234) on it. When you buy the ticket, your numbers will be sent to the central computer, which will instantly send back your barcode reference number which is then printed on the ticket. Since it is just a computer, then it has the ability to do this. With this, they can also tell which regional counters that produced every winning tickets.

MKT for sure has a programmable system up to the extent on how much money they wanted to win in every draw, or giving away big winners to regional counters that collect most deposits.

That said,i conclude the "art" of reading the code for MKT is totally useless

Posted on 2012-09-07 04:13:04

iskka

Joined: 2009-03-21
Posts: 2
ramalan ari ni 5199.9159.6171 ble cuba kat magnum

Posted on 2012-05-16 14:56:48

iskka

Joined: 2009-03-21
Posts: 2
d9861

Posted on 2012-05-16 14:53:54

concon

Joined: 2003-09-06
Posts: 269
Hi,

You will learn the trick of playing 4D over time. It's take time to know all the probability combination when you buy the number with all the codes and numbers display on the ticket. There are there for a reason. Remember all card, majong, roulette, and etc. are all numbers game, no different from 4D. Very often we heard about God of gambler, it's true everyone can become God of gambler provided you can master the art of it over time. Do not over do it, repeat do not over do it. Play within your capability. There is always a next game. Best of luck and happy playing.

Posted on 2010-01-05 17:33:27

johnkayu

Joined: 2010-01-01
Posts: 113
Mr.logicalthinker

U can try this numbers : Magnum Draw No.507/10

Posted on 2010-01-05 01:22:03

sbj

Joined: 2007-11-13
Posts: 430
Section GREEN would show the no.strike for the drawbig grin

Posted on 2010-01-05 00:10:09

logicalthinker

Joined: 2010-01-04
Posts: 55
yeah, nothing is perfect. haha, saying that for self-motivation. haha, kalau jatuh, stand up fight lagi, but don't lose your whole saving..cheers..

Posted on 2010-01-04 23:47:21

rastaisa

Joined: 2009-11-03
Posts: 70
would like to add sumthin ere..
we all know like LT said, practise makes perfect but did u all ever heard this statement - nobody's perfect?

aha...practise makes perfect; nobody's perfect, sooooo
why practise?...hahaha..just cheering up the night bros..

& also - you can never beat the house!!
but still for me, all 3,4,5,6 d are predictable..
the question is how?..

Posted on 2010-01-04 23:41:42

von_dutch

Joined: 2010-01-02
Posts: 371
big grin glad to see a lot of positive feedback big grin

I just wonder :
A new nick name for a New Year?
Maybe this is our New Year Resolution big grin

Posted on 2010-01-04 23:24:44

logicalthinker

Joined: 2010-01-04
Posts: 55
haha, interesting bro top_3, I strongly agreed with you. Human is the most intelligent 1. You know how to break their programme, their IT know how to prevent it, else IT folks no more jobs dee. Like what I said, if anyone can really break them, then they tutup kedai loh, hehe.

But it's good that everyone give their decent thoughts and opinions here.

Betting 4D still a fun and good brainstorming game, the rule is don't be greedy.

Posted on 2010-01-04 23:24:27

logicalthinker

Joined: 2010-01-04
Posts: 55
haha, mr _____, true also, you have your point.

bro parkmans, you have your good point too. Programme is built with lines of instructions, where people invented and controlled them.

Everyone here have their own unique ways to read the TC, this is incredible.

For me, I don't deeply study it, as I'm very new to it. Just sharing my thoughts, those machine readable barcodes, they must consist of the informations like the draw code, date, counter location, bet number, bet amount and so on. And how the barcodes used in the system is something in the blue ocean.

Posted on 2010-01-04 23:15:56

top_3

Joined: 2010-01-03
Posts: 7
haha cant believe i read whole story, interesting topic here. There some truth what ahmadfs said, we cant defeat m6 system if m6 priority winning on their side (they still need to pay for gov tax). I think they use something like if else statement for programming and their system keep changing to make things difficult to track. But since it computer program'g (not by random ball pick)and program by human brain we still can predict the trend. im not talk bout code reader because if you trying to unlock the code actually you are doing reverse engineerg. For system that always keep changing its really difficult (not like software crack'g) its not we cant unlock it but the chances is v.really low. There many hacker outside but none we here cant unlock the code, why? But maybe you will the 1st who knows? Not for me even im done lot of crackg before.
But for trend i think yes we can predict to cut from 10000 to maybe around 1000 combination. correct me if im wrong. let say we pick 1xxx then buy 000-999 then we just pray 1xxx will hit 1st prz. your job is to predict what 1st number to come out at 1st prz. any1 brave enough? Qoute for u guys 揟he distance is nothing; it is only the first step that is difficult.

p/s: if things become to hard why not we just "ASK" the person who done the programming for 4d system? End the story...but i bet he also dont know what number to come out. Just my dua puluh sen

Posted on 2010-01-04 23:14:40

parkmans

Joined: 2009-02-21
Posts: 185
kaedah permainan atau disebut judi ini sudah semestinya diprogramkan untuk keuntungan syarikat 4d.maka tidak hairanlah nombor yang tertentu akan habis sold out. dan nombor kesukaan ramai dimati 2010 .walaubagaimana pun kemampuan kita semua adalah luar biasa mampu menganalisa (kajian) computer hanya bekerja mengikut arahan tekanan jadi kesimpulanya kombinasi carian code adalah penting.sebagai contoh sekiranya anda seorang programer tentu faham atau tahu base code 2246.

Posted on 2010-01-04 23:03:25

_______________

Joined: 2010-01-02
Posts: 95
LT much shorter pronounced. hehe.. one more thing. Even if a code breaker 100percent sure about his prediction, final preparation before placing a bet is to check the number's history. You would never play the number that won't come out for 20years right? big grin

Posted on 2010-01-04 23:02:15

logicalthinker

Joined: 2010-01-04
Posts: 55
bro sparko, true also. they should have more than 1 set of winning numbers per draw, else how they earn big money.

No matter how many sets they have, as long as we confident with our betting numbers enough.

Posted on 2010-01-04 23:01:49

logicalthinker

Joined: 2010-01-04
Posts: 55
bro gr8waja, their set of winning numbers must be stored in their so called super high end database..haha

Posted on 2010-01-04 22:57:23

sparko138

Joined: 2008-10-18
Posts: 2512
mr logicalthinker... Thanks for your info..

the best part is''

'4D game is a combination of 4 digits 0-9 number from 0000-9999, so there are total 10000 possible combinations. There are 23 4D number per draw, 3 draws per weeks (excluded Special draw), means 23*3*52 = 3588 combinations per year. So a same number should be reoccured every 3 years.'

so.. harap 4d player dapat memahami serba sedikit tentang fakta ini.. Setiap race / rumah = 23nos / set.. actually how many set is standby for every race?? Of course more than 1 set..

Posted on 2010-01-04 22:50:44

logicalthinker

Joined: 2010-01-04
Posts: 55
bro mezeng, thanks...
Hopefully I'll figure out the story behind the tickets, hehe...need to do a lot of homeworks and testing, practices make perfect.

My 1st trying/guessing/predicting from tahutakpe's TC.
6812, 4612, 6824...mbox
haha, bet at your own risks.

Posted on 2010-01-04 22:48:39

mezeng

Joined: 2007-12-27
Posts: 260
logicalthinker lemme pronounce u as LT....
yes 3d is easier to predict like the code readers do....
u need to refer to their post.... maybe i can
named some of the readers like acidburn, zinzan,
stunravers,yusrygto and others in master lvl....
for me code is mean to be break.... im sure 1 day
u will find how it works.... we r not greedy but
sometimes the circumstances make us do....
help us and we will aprreciate ur effort
and knowledge....

Posted on 2010-01-04 22:32:31

logicalthinker

Joined: 2010-01-04
Posts: 55
Thanks bro _______ for the sharing...haha, hopefully your nick is correct happy

Posted on 2010-01-04 22:16:19

gr8waja

Joined: 2009-08-01
Posts: 224
...and where do they stored it heheheh

Posted on 2010-01-04 22:16:10

_______________

Joined: 2010-01-02
Posts: 95
logicalthinker, 3 things basically code breaker reading>>

1) green section
2) yellow section
3) bet number

If you have watched last posted by sparko138, then you know what i meant.big grin

Posted on 2010-01-04 22:13:24

gr8waja

Joined: 2009-08-01
Posts: 224
I wonder if they set the winning numbers in advance ie there are ready sets of winning numbers for the entire 2010 draw tongue

Posted on 2010-01-04 22:13:20

logicalthinker

Joined: 2010-01-04
Posts: 55
Haha, not sure if MKT are from same taukey. Seldom see the same number strike in the same draw for more than 1 MKT counter...

Posted on 2010-01-04 22:05:35

_______________

Joined: 2010-01-02
Posts: 95
Hm,. I wonder how magnum built their own forecast chart eh? also it looks too coincidence that every draw MKT got plenty of same 4D/3D numbers. Maybe using the same programmer lor.laughing

Posted on 2010-01-04 22:00:40

logicalthinker

Joined: 2010-01-04
Posts: 55
Dear all,

I saw a lot of posts stating confirmed 3D in, just need to find another replacement 1D, this is interesting. Anyone know how to spot the confirmed 3D TC?

Posted on 2010-01-04 21:59:10

gr8waja

Joined: 2009-08-01
Posts: 224
...and be a smart player not a greedy gambler

Posted on 2010-01-04 21:57:03

number78

Joined: 2009-12-28
Posts: 1437
Salam Tuan Ahmadfs.

Setuju dengan tuan. semua ni program, dalam bentuk code.
bila ada code, boleh decode. happy

kena belajar dulu lah, itu aje.
hohohohoo..

salam.

Posted on 2010-01-04 21:56:02

mkt31

Joined: 2010-01-04
Posts: 42
Looking forward for some valuable output from you as well...Good Luck !!!

Posted on 2010-01-04 21:55:39

mkt31

Joined: 2010-01-04
Posts: 42
Thnx

Posted on 2010-01-04 21:54:36

gr8waja

Joined: 2009-08-01
Posts: 224
sometime sold out number did came out 1st hehe

Posted on 2010-01-04 21:53:21

number78

Joined: 2009-12-28
Posts: 1437
Salam Tuan Mezeng..

bagus ar idea tuan, memandangkan logicalthinker ni programmer, lagi mudah dia faham, senang dia nak buat 4D decoder..!!

hahahahhaahaa..

takdelah dia mau main no kete dia aje kali ni...
hohohohohooo


salam.

Posted on 2010-01-04 21:53:02

logicalthinker

Joined: 2010-01-04
Posts: 55
haha, bro mezeng, I'm also an ordinary number player until I discovered this forum, found out so many interesting ways people predict the betting numbers. I'm new and start learning from others' sharing. But if I have the clues, sure I'll share with the forumers.

MKT money is for every 4D players..hooray..

Posted on 2010-01-04 21:50:36

mezeng

Joined: 2007-12-27
Posts: 260
very well mr. logicalthinker....
ur explaination about coding are muchly appreciate....
im not a code reader, just an ordinary number
player that have some wish....
i would like to hear more bout programming that
u had learn and will be appreciate if u willing
to teach us.... i hope 1 day u will discover
how to read the codes and decoded it....
i know u can make some barcode scanner that
can read the codes and break it happy

Posted on 2010-01-04 21:46:08

logicalthinker

Joined: 2010-01-04
Posts: 55
bro ahmadfs, good explanation and sharing too...

4D game is a big big earning business happy

Posted on 2010-01-04 21:44:14

logicalthinker

Joined: 2010-01-04
Posts: 55
bro mkt31, I saw a lot of sharing from bro sibumari, maybe you can refer to them.

hehe, bro hantus, as long as winning big money, any way also the best way right happy

Posted on 2010-01-04 21:40:36

ahmadfs

Joined: 2004-08-11
Posts: 34
Good explanation bro...

Pada aku senang jer...meh kita ambil contoh...

1. andaikata kita ada hantu yang boleh bagi nombor 1st price, then kita belasah RM500 Big 500 Small...agak2 no yang dibeli tu akan keluar tak??...jawapannya tak..sebab ia dah program dah yang syarikat takkan kalah/bayar melebihi pendapatan.

2. Kenapa nombor2 yang laris sukar/takpernah nak keluar cth pada tahun baru 2010,atau nombor famous lain yang selalu sold out...ini sebabnya terlalu ramai yang ambil no tu..kalau keluar..syarikat akan rugi besar(syarikat dah program untuk limitkan pembayaran andaikata no tsbt keluar jugak)

3. Yang paling benar..MKT dah program yg perjudian ini akan menguntungkan mereka.

Posted on 2010-01-04 21:39:06

mkt31

Joined: 2010-01-04
Posts: 42
Nice to know you as well Mr. L'thinker

Well i have gone through few but yet no clue ..still all alien to me , may be in the near future ...

Posted on 2010-01-04 21:36:49

hantus

Joined: 2009-11-08
Posts: 361
ok just to add a sugar in a coffee..."kebarangkalian adalah penting" ...so what say u..mr logicalthinking hehehehe....
if u love maths.. u love that think regarding number...hehehehe big grin big grin big grin big grin just give some idea

Posted on 2010-01-04 21:36:12

logicalthinker

Joined: 2010-01-04
Posts: 55
Hi mkt31, nice to know you.
You can search for the posts in this forum some members sharing on how to find the full betting number base on the tickets. I think there are a lot...

Posted on 2010-01-04 21:30:45

mkt31

Joined: 2010-01-04
Posts: 42
Dear All

Thnx to Mr.Logicalthinker for the post.

Just new here as well and was wondering if any one could give some basic tips how to read a TC.

Ref: Von Ducth psoting "there is a cycle of codes...." can any one post a winning Ticket or TC leading to a winning number how they derived to the winning number ? May be i am asking for a lot ..but i hope there is some one out there whos willing to teach ..no offence to any one .

Thanks

Keep winning !!!

Regards

Posted on 2010-01-04 21:25:35

logicalthinker

Joined: 2010-01-04
Posts: 55
haha, no problem bro..everything in this world is really interesting, something you can tell in scientifically, but sometimes something is really unexplainable...

It's good that everyone have their opinions and sharing is important...

Posted on 2010-01-04 21:14:59

number78

Joined: 2009-12-28
Posts: 1437
there's one more thing, mr.logicalthinking.

ever wonder how scientist know the story of ancient lifetime, by looking at the symbols that carved on ancient building/document/pyramid..?

the scientists only saw symbols and other form of never-saw-before writings, yet, they can decode it and voila..! the rest is history..

no offence ya bro.. wink

Posted on 2010-01-04 21:11:03

von_dutch

Joined: 2010-01-02
Posts: 371
There is a cycle of codes being used and unpredictable.
If u find the same code again, SURELY the bet no will strike. And by chance, why not u increase ur stake?

Sometimes, as a code reader, we overlook those codes because of too many tcs to look at. But end of the day, i'm just please and thank God for the gain that i earn.

p.s. I don't practise +/- concept coz that is consider "LUCK" and totally out of code-reader concept.

Posted on 2010-01-04 21:06:33

logicalthinker

Joined: 2010-01-04
Posts: 55
Thanks bros...for the positive responses. I'm new to 4D codes, so not sure how it was built. But every programmer should have their own ways/patterns to code the system, so pattern tracking might be one of the good ways.

I believe it's hard to break the codes, else MKT will be closed doors tongue. However 4D is still strongly predictable...

Posted on 2010-01-04 21:05:55

number78

Joined: 2009-12-28
Posts: 1437
Hi Mr. logicalthinker.

Great insight u hv.

I strongly believe that those code breakers tracking the pattern/trail leave by the programmers.

every programs have pattern, rite mate..?

Posted on 2010-01-04 20:59:52

gr8waja

Joined: 2009-08-01
Posts: 224
yes its predictable although not all the time.
Observing the code pattern is 1 of the trick, chances of winning are much higher than some lads that are gamble for a certain numbers and hope that particular numbers will come out

Posted on 2010-01-04 20:57:56

von_dutch

Joined: 2010-01-02
Posts: 371
purple area only for machine validation.
it translates the G code except for G7, whereby it's not included in the barcode.

Posted on 2010-01-04 20:54:50

logicalthinker

Joined: 2010-01-04
Posts: 55
Just my 2 cents...

Posted on 2010-01-04 20:54:46

avira

Joined: 2009-12-01
Posts: 22
logik ke tak itu no 2 bro, jnji ada pulangan, ko jgn pandai ckp je, ad aidea meh kongsi cni, cmputer reading 0100,0110 dan sbgnya.. so kita cari satu keserasian yg nos masuk dan duit............

Posted on 2010-01-04 20:49:36


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